I was originally going to post this on Telegram but the character limit won’t allow it.
TLDR: Chris Cantwell defamed me with false accusations over Ukraine because he thinks it will help him get back in the good graces of TRSodomites.
Hope it works out for him!
Let’s talk about Jared’s position on Ukraine…”
It has nothing to do with Ukraine
This is certainly true of Chris’s position re: my position on Ukraine.
My own position on Ukraine is rooted in opposition to white genocide and violations of territorial sovereignty in white nations.
Jared thinks he’s not successful because he sided with me over TRS when the Daily Stormer attacked me.
Non-sequitur. I don’t think I’m unsuccessful. I’m happily married with three kids. I’m the sole provider for my family. I like my job. I like my life. I’m not a felon. I’m not a terminally online retard who farms parasocial relationships on the internet just to pay my bills.
I’m pretty blessed.
At one time, I lost my social media accounts, payment processing, and web hosting because I charitably covered Chris’s participation in the UTR rally over an extended duration while he was in county jail. I don’t remember which stage of the Radical Agenda it was, but he called it “Live from Seg”.
I also lost my position as Assistant Media Director at Being Libertarian, my spot on the Backwordz Live podcast, and my spot at Liberty Hangout as a columnist and livestreamer. At the time, these outlets were already reaching several million people per month. They’re much bigger now. If I was after clout, or if I measured success in audience size, I could have just ignored Chris.
And in fact, Chris only ever had me on the Radical Agenda in the first place because I had access to these large platforms in the libertarian space at a time when libertarians were increasingly deplatforming him.
Turns out the falling tide sinks all ships.
When I think about the opportunities lost as a result of being charitable to Chris, these are the platforms that come to mind, and not…
He thinks he would be on the same team as the Daily Stormer if not for me
I never asked the Daily Stormer to syndicate my content. I saw it as a liability when they did so. I only ever mentioned that they stopped posting my show because Andrew Anglin personally tried to bribe me with continued syndication in exchange for a public condemnation of Cantwell over the latter’s signal boosting of the Ricky Vaughn dox.
I don’t regret declining.
If I was looking for more clout, it would have been pretty easy to just say yes (or to shill for Russia like every other faggot from the former Alt-Right.) Vaughn clearly has more clout than Cantwell does, and the Stormer generates more traffic than Cantwell gets. I declined because I thought and still think that Cantwell was correct to inform the public about Vaughn’s employment at Smartcheckr / Clearview AI, and that it was weird for ANYONE to defend or ignore it. This, like public defense of Cantwell himself, was clearly not the popular position at the time.
But to reiterate, what harmed me most was the original debanking and deplatforming from social media following my coverage of Chris’s misadventure in Charlottesville; not the loss of access to the Daily Stormer, which was republishing my content without my permission anyway.
I don’t regret my decision not to comply with the demands of Andrew Anglin; I regret doing Live from Seg.
…and that he wouldn’t be some nobody loser
Again, I was only ever invited to be on the Radical Agenda because I already had access to extremely large platforms that had over a million subs cumulatively. This is likewise why he thought I’d be able to help him get his message out following his arrests. If this wasn’t the case, why even rely on me for help? If it was because no one else could or would, who’s the real loser? (Spoiler Alert: It’s the childless felon in his mid-forties who spends his days spamming followers with trad-themed softcore porn and pictures of other people’s kids.)
One of the most persistent myths about my charity to Chris is that it was selfishly motivated, and that I expected some benefit to accrue to me for it. I think this theory says more about the people who believe it than it does about me. I did what I did out of the goodness of my heart. What accrued were costs and consequences, and they piled up quickly. I continued to help him for years in spite of this because I (foolishly) took pity on him.
And look where that got me.
Thankfully, I’ve always had an actual career and income independent of my internet presence, and so I’ve been able to thrive and provide for my family in spite of the censorship and deplatforming I’ve endured in service to the empathy I have for targets of lawfare.
…who can’t even keep a website online without my help.
When I was kicked from my hosting provider, Chris offered to host my site on his rented server. Chris was in jail when this happened, and thus he didn’t actually “do” anything to maintain his rented server, which was being managed and maintained by a third party, about whom I’ve nothing bad to say.
I used to be a professional technical writer specializing in emergency data recovery in Exchange and SQL environments. I did this for years before getting laid off in 2020 because of COVID lockdowns. Keeping a website online isn’t hard, it’s just time-consuming. It’s very convenient to have a managed service provider — especially when you work a full time job and have three kids to raise. That’s why I ultimately rented my own server from the same provider, who is excellent.
Jared is a TRS contrarian
Jared supports ZOG’s recent killing spree because TRS opposes it
If you read the interaction to which he’s responding, I actually led off by saying we should avoid reflexively taking the opposite position of people we don’t like as each new “current opposite thing” can contradict the last just as often and egriously as each new “current thing”.
TRS has made a lot of good points with which I agree, especially with regard to demographics, white genocide, Jewish influence, and the LGBT slippery slope. I used to really enjoy their content, even after doxgate. If I was merely being a “TRS contrarian”, surely I’d embrace white genocide, the Great Replacement, and Drag Queen Story Hour, right?
Ironically, I first took issue with TRS because of how they treated Chris during the aforementioned Ricky Vaughn drama. Since then, they’ve platformed an open NazBol, embraced COVID lockdowns, mocked whites who lost their jobs, mocked vaccine skeptics, and promoted weird third worldist political alliances between whites and Arabs, all of which has been thoroughly documented by Thuletide on his Telegram channel.
I can confidently say that I would be against these things regardless of who did them.
As far as Ukraine goes, I was already publishing episodes about the war at 7am EST on the mornings of February 21 and 22, 2022 when arm-chair Russia buffs were still saying that Russia wasn’t going to invade — a position they didn’t abandon until the “SMO” started on the 24th, at which point they started calling it the “most humanitarian and best executed military operation ever.” Chris wouldn’t know this, however, because he was sitting in the restricted communication ward of a Federal prison at the time.
I believed that Putin would invade when the NazBol branch of the Alt Right was still in denial because I knew ahead of time that Eurasianism is the guiding principle of Russian foreign policy, as has been extensively documented by content creators like myself, Thuletide, Brandon Martinez, Lazerpig, Jake Broe, Appolonian Germ, Nicholas Jeelvy, and many others.
But nope, Biden likewise said an invasion was imminent, so the opposite just HAD to be true!
In reality, I couldn’t have based my opposition to the war on anything TRS was saying at the time because TRS didn’t even think Putin was going to invade when I was first warning about it. Doesn’t matter though because I’d still be against Putin’s mass murder of white people regardless of who supports it.
Characterizing such support as “opposition to ZOG’s most recent killing spree” is literally a total inversion of the truth, especially given that 1.) The killing would stop if Putin ordered his Arab army to retreat and stand down, and 2.) The Russian Federation is in fact a Zionist Occupied Government that views Israel as an “ethnically Soviet” country — which is probably why Zelenskyy is stripping citizenship from Israelis with dual citizenship.
Again though, Chris couldn’t have possibly known how any of this actually unfolded or how the goalpost was moved from “Putin won’t invade!” to “okay okay he’s rolling in tanks but it’s just a three-day SMO, which I support!” to “okay okay it’s a proxy war against the West intended to totally demilitarize and denazify Ukraine, which is a fake national / ethnic identity created by Zionists, but the West started it” because he was sitting in federal prison without internet access.
But since that position is indefensible, he has to make up ridiculous nonsense about a fucking nobody named Alexandr Dugin
You mean the nobody whose books are required reading in the Russian military? The same nobody whose daughter was assassinated in Moscow, prompting a funeral that was attended by Russian oligarchs and heads of state? The same nobody that cofounded the NazBol party? The same nobody that gave the inaugural address when the TWP was founded? The nobody whose book Chris read in prison while incarcerated with Viktor Bout, who was suspiciously handed back to the Russian Federation immediately after radicalizing an American white nationalist with Eurasian ideology?
What exactly did I make up? I’ve been quoting the guy in his own words since 2020, well before the “SMO” started. Half the time I was just reading Thuletide articles on air, all of which include extensive citations. What does Chris think I did? Time travel back to 2020 to write and talk about Dugin after the “SMO” started in 2022?
Chris has his order of operations backwards. My coverage of Dugin started before the war; not after. My prior coverage of Dugin and Eurasianism is how I knew to expect the invasion when others were denying it could happen. The Russian military is following Dugin’s prescribed geopolitical strategy to a tee. Chris isn’t the first person to do the DuGiN dOnT rELeVaNt bit, however, and I’m sure he won’t be the last. Denying his relevance is a standard tactic among Ziggers who read Dugin.
He pretends to doubt the wisdom of anyone who doubts depleting American stockpiles…
They’re sending cold war era weaponry dude, relax. I don’t doubt the wisdom of Ziggers because of their concern for depleted American stockpiles; I doubt their wisdom because they openly shill for what they know is an obvious act of white genocide, all while inverting the blame by condemning Ukrainians for having the balls to actually defend their homeland against Chechan and Dagi rape invaders.
Spiteful mutants like Chris and his pet Dagis don’t care about the weapon stockpiles or the dead white people; they just have hate boner tunnel vision for the American government and want to advance Russia’s geopolitical interests because they think it will magically lead to regime change in America, thereby magically fixing their pathetic, wasted lives for them.
…to drag out Nuland’s 2015 coup
Not this shit again. Some of the propaganda that comes out of the Kremlin is absolutely brilliant. This is not one of those instances.
The Nuland conspiracy theory goes something like this:
- Victoria Nuland makes a phone call
- Victoria Nuland expresses an opinion about who she would like to see in charge in Ukraine; says she thinks it would “fuck the EU”
- Ukrainian parliament votes unanimously to dissolve the government and hold new elections
Ironically, “fucking the EU” is exactly what Putin hoped to do when he pressured Yanukovych to kill the EUUAA, which is what actually caused the Maidan uprising in the first place. The Nuland phone call has been given outsized emphasis by people who refuse to admit that Russia caused that uprising by interfering with Ukrainian politics.
Jared thought he’d have my support when I got home from prison
I had already caught wind that Chris was pro-Russia well before he got out because he had published something about the Orange Revolution. In fact, when he contacted me upon release, he asked me if his position on Russia was why I stopped posting So to Speak on his website several months prior. I told him I stopped posting because I was having technical difficulties, which was true, but the reason I never bothered to resolve the underlying issue is because I didn’t think he’d want to platform my perspective. I was clearly right.
He thought the support I earned in Virginia would be helpful to him
This is just naked narcissism. Chris’s performance in the civil trial was entertaining, but it wasn’t a game changer. Being associated with Cantwell has never historically increased my reach or been helpful to me (see above.) Nothing about the civil suit in Virginia changed my perspective of the costs implicit to being associated with him.
He was mistaken
No I wasn’t.
The panic was audible in his voice
No it wasn’t.
That call was almost certainly recorded, and I dare him to publish it
That may have been a possibility had Chris not insisted on using an encrypted messaging app to facilitate the call. I actually thought the call was pretty cordial. I didn’t have an issue with it. I would release it right now if I could have recorded it.
What I remember about it is being distracted by my kids while Chris gave me a sales pitch on Viktor Bout. “Viktor who?”, I asked. “You know, the arms dealer that just got traded for the tranny basketball player.” He seemed very proud of being so close to a national news story, and he reacted like he was hit with cold water when I started talking about Putin’s international anti-fascist Congress.
Given the complexity of the situation and the then-current demands on my attention, I suggested we continue the conversation via text so that we might both have the opportunity to take our time laying out our perspectives in good faith.
As you can see in the text exchange that resulted, he ultimately declined to address any of my arguments, opting instead to end the conversation on grounds that it’s too hard to type on a smartphone. He then comes back and offers to have the conversation at a later date, but ultimately ends up maligning me with a series of false accusations to his audience instead.
Even at the height of my dissatisfaction with TRS, I was never so childish, slanderous, or malicious
What was childish and malicious? What was slanderous? Calling them out for being NazBols who support lockdowns, vaccines, and white genocide? Was I wrong about something? Did I lie? If so, what was it? Why even make claims like this without providing specific examples? To brown nose one’s way back into their good graces? Again, very ironic given that a lot of my original TRS criticism was over how they treated Chris. That he looks the other way and pretends it never happened isn’t a mark of maturity or good will; it’s the mark of cuckoldry and impotence.
Maligning me for defending him against them is also a pretty cucky move.
“A bunch of dudes don’t want to talk to me”
Not my contention. See above.
Jared spends his days talking shit about people who would otherwise forget he existed
In reality, I spend my days doing HVAC work so I can feed my family. When I’m not doing that, I’m spending time with my wife and kids. As a consumer and occasional creator of right-wing media, I sometimes find occasion to criticize the arguments, motives, and connections of people who are egregiously wrong.
I know this isn’t as productive as sharing trad-themed softcore porn and pictures of other people’s kids.
Please forgive me.
I am in no mood to look petty and jealous for attacking people who are more successful than I am
And yet that’s exactly what he’s doing. Not only am I more successful than Chris by literally every metric, but I also epitomize everything he says he stands for. He, meanwhile, is a childless adulterer and felon in his mid-forties whose best hope for a normal life is for the Russian Federation to overthrow the Federal Government of the United States. His past decisions were so bad that he isn’t even allowed to own a gun.
It would be hard for any white guy to be more of a spiteful mutant than this without also being a drug addict.
(TRS) is so obviously right (about Russia)
No actual substance or supporting argument here. Just more brown nosing.
Viktor Yanukovych was overthrown twice by the U.S. government
This is objectively untrue.
When he left office in 2014, it was following an agreement he personally signed for early elections. The Ukrainian parliament agreed unanimously. There is no evidence that the Nuland phone call had any impact on any of this, or that Ukrainians only protested the kaibosh of the EUUAA because of some covert CIA plot.
Yakunovych’s first electoral victory was overturned by the Ukrainian Supreme Court over allegations of election fraud — something we only wish was possible in America.
America had nothing to do with it.
You are not standing with the people of Ukraine by supporting that
Supporting what? A fictitious coup that never happened?
Is that kind of like how denying the Holocaust is the same as supporting it?
Very Jewish argument but okay.
You are standing with the same criminals who attacked us in Charlottesville!
No, I’m standing with white people who are being invaded by Chechan and Dagi rapists for no other (ostensible) reason than that they have a corrupt government. If having a corrupt government makes your nation and territory forfeit, what white country couldn’t be justifiably invaded?
Regardless, Ukrainians didn’t attack Chris in Charlottesville. That was Antifa. Guess who heads the International Anti-Fascist Congress? Only one of us stands with him, and it’s not me.
You don’t get to paint that as a virtue and wag your faggot ass finger at me
Being consistent in my opposition to white genocide is a virtue, actually. And in fact, no one is better positioned to criticize Chris than I am — especially about this. That’s why he’s so upset about it.
When I saw my co-defendants attacking one another in the that Charlottesville courtroom, it disgusted me
Here we are with the enemy sitting across the room from us, we have all the evidence on our side, all we have to do is tell the truth and show the video.
And yet he lies with every word; provides no evidence of his claims; attacks the person who has helped him more than anyone else, all over… what? The honor of TRS faggots who threw him under the bus repeatedly?
I find all this “we” talk interesting given something Chris said to a mutual fan of ours who got banned from his chat for criticizing Mark Collett:
“If I have to give the middle finger tomorrow, to everyone who knows me today, I’ll replace them all a year from tomorrow.”
Chris is free to “replace you all tomorrow” but you’re obligated not to criticize him or TRS because… “the enemy is sitting across the room”, and because he did stupid shit in Virginia. Or something.
But these petty motherfuckers (who supported him the entire time he was imprisoned) take the time to carry on petty personal conflicts
Yeah? And what exactly was the text wall to which I’m responding intended to do?
That’s what Jared has done with Ukraine.
No it isn’t. My opposition to Putin genociding whites in Ukraine isn’t rooted in a personal vendetta against anyone. It’s rooted in a principled opposition to white genocide and territorial encroachment on homogenous white countries.
There is no principle at work here
Yes there is. See above.
When I told him I was against team ZOG, he acted like I betrayed him personally
What honest person believes I support “team ZOG?” If I acted like he betrayed me personally, it was because he wouldn’t give me the benefit of an honest or charitable conversation after everything I charitably sacrificed in order to help him. It doesn’t bother me that we disagree. What bothers me is that he handled and continues to handle our disagreement in extremely bad faith.
The topic itself is only personal to me insofar as I am white, and I oppose white genocide.
There are worse things to be accused of than taking white genocide personally.
Do a little time in prison and you’ll quickly figure out that petty personality conflicts aren’t worth it. Want no more brother wars? Then remember that.
So why post this, faggot?
Also, imagine appealing to the consequences of your bad decisions as though it makes you an authority on integrity, war, or anything else. Chris didn’t go to jail because he’s competent; he went to jail because he made bad decisions.
Extremely bad decisions.
You have to grin and bear it in prison when you don’t like a guy, especially if you’re a fucking pussy, because you have no discretion on whether or not you see him every day. The same is not true of random people on the internet. The skill set required to survive in prison is not the same as the skill set required to end or even mitigate intra-racial conflict on the Internet, and you definitely can’t do the latter by being indiscriminately tolerant of quasi-whites who promote anti-white ideologies like 4PT and National Bolshevism under the pretense of being pro-white.
I’m old enough to remember when Chris said that acting like a prisoner will ensure that you are treated like one; now he argues acting like a prisoner is the key to “no more brother wars.”
“The key to ending brother wars is abstaining from criticizing me or TRS; not overhauling government.”
Is he fucking insane? If this is true, why does he even care what the government does, or what anyone’s opinion about it is?
And I wish I didn’t have to do this, but on the topic of being a loser…
Chris Cantwell is hitting levels of damage control mode that shouldn’t even be possible, but we probably haven’t seen anything yet.
When Chris went to prison for extortion, it was because he threatened a Bowl Patrol faggot / federal informant with “having listeners come to your house” for not giving up the identity of some other Bowl Patrol faggot / federal informant, who supposedly doxxed and / or threatened some slut (another alleged federal informant) to which Chris supposedly proposed.
At the same time, Chris was carrying on an intimate relationship with an extreme alcoholic who was in and out of a psychiatric hospital on a regular basis.
I know this because I passed messages between Cantwell and the alcoholic psych patient for years while he was imprisoned. While he was crying crocodile tears in court about proposing to the alleged federal informant, his psychotic alcoholic girlfriend was losing her mind over not being able to monopolize his affection.
In public, he made an affirmative defense of his actions by arguing they were a crime of passion.
In private, he was an adulterer.
This situation started well before he ended up in Federal prison, which is why we ended up publicly debating polygyny on the Radical Agenda. If he hadn’t been carrying on multiple relationships, he never would have been baited into extorting a federal informant.
You’d think he’d have learned a lesson or two after what happened to him when he transformed himself into a cartoon Nazi, but now he’s doubling down by transforming himself into a cartoon Russophile.
He goes out of his way to paint a target on his back for federal law enforcement.
If you were thinking of helping this guy, don’t.
It’s a waste of time and resources.